Memorable Comments No.28

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Nanbread (Sat 13 Sep 2003 23:26:47 GMT)

Brother Shogun

Brother Shogun,

When I hear about concerts its normally word of mouth.

If you let me know exactly when you plan to come then I can find out whats happening and let you know in advance.

There are plenty of bars in Leciester Square All-Bar-One, Tiger Tiger, Equinox, Hippodrome all teaming with english girls on saturday nights :-).

In the vicinity of Leciester Square there are numourous bars marked as "cattle markets wear loads of young teenagers go to get drunk (17-20 year olds) teaming with young buttocks waiting for the mighty Shogun to devour. Will get all the info and give u the low down.


X (Tue 16 Sep 2003 00:04:27 GMT)

A dangerous chikan mission

I will be embarking on a dangerous chikan mission this October, brothers. I recently moved to Temple Terrace, FL, and I learned of the annual Guavaween celebration that they have in Ybor City (Tampa's Latin district). Apparently, over 200,000 people flood seven city blocks for a Mardi Gras-like Halloween celebration. There are drunken women everywhere, and even better: they are in their 20s-40s (n

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Black Shogun (Tue 16 Sep 2003 01:53:41 GMT)

Re: X - Ybor City

The Shogun has been to Ybor City before my friend. Now, it isn't all that dangerous. At least I didn't feel threatened. I wasn't there during this celebration that you mention, but the clubs there were packed. Good luck!

Black Shogun


pbh (Tue 16 Sep 2003 05:56:31 GMT)

nanbread-english bars

hi brother
i too am planning to come to london. probably by the end of the year. i will definitely make it to the bars that u mentioned. i was only a bit apprehensive if the bouncers will allow asians in all these bars. and also do english babes get offended if asians try to hump them. i know i am making a risky statement. but lets face it, am asking u because i have heard of stories that say that there is a difference in treatment. my indian friend in austria cant enter most of the bars there. so i wud like to hear ur wise advices on this

cheers
pbh


Kass (Tue 16 Sep 2003 10:34:44 GMT)

ozzi groper- best train route/time?

hey ozzi, im from melbourne too...

when would u say the best times/routes are? (ie most crowded obviously)

personally i think its weekdays, betweeen 5.10-5.40pm... but the major problem i found is that the most crowded trains are the ones out from the city to like footscray and other outskirts... i need to ride the lilidale line (platform 10) and i can never find a train thats fully crowded... am i just getting the times wrong or are most lines not that crowded?


Nanbread (Tue 16 Sep 2003 19:24:15 GMT)

Punjabi Butt Humper

You wont have any issues entering bars. The reason that they dont let people in are those who are very drunk, loud mouthed or look like trouble makers.

I am of Indian descent myself and have had no problems getting into bars, night clubs in London. Just make sure your smartly dressed (smart casuals.

The only other reason you might get stopped is if its a private party or members only place. Let me know if you require any further information on where to go etc.


Nanbread (Tue 16 Sep 2003 19:28:46 GMT)

EnglishBirds getting offended by asians humping them - pbh


Pbh,

They definitely will not get offended just because your asian.

English women have extremely bad tastes when it comes to drinking. They will drink and drink until they drop. Which means by 11-30 pm you can hump a english girl in a crowded bar without her even caring.


taxcider (Tue 16 Sep 2003 21:53:18 GMT)

2 Favorite Groping Scenes in Films

This is kind of off-topic but on the off chance I find a like mind here goes...
One scene is in "The One and Only" with "Fonzie" from Happy Days and "Tattoo"
from Fantasy Island. In the movie Fonzie plays a wrestler who is managed by
Tattoo, a lecherous midget. When Fonzie's wife's parents..played by the guy
who did Knight Rider's voice and Flo from Alice visit...Tattoo tries to seduce

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aise_hi_masti (Tue 16 Sep 2003 22:02:50 GMT)

how can you be certain?

I realize that part of the thrill in feeling up strangers is the element of danger involved. I have taken my fair share of risks over the years and have succeeded in feeling up a number of women -- young and old. My favorites are women between 32 and 50, although I must say these days I'm finding better responses from younger women -- in the late 20s.
Here's the million dollar question -- what

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punjabi butt humper (Wed 17 Sep 2003 05:52:31 GMT)

aise hi masti

this bbs is a wealth of knowledge for you to know abt women in crowds. if u have the patience to read through the articles you will actually get to know how women react and what are the better tricks in trade to find out when to arouse and when to quit. u have to be extremely sensitive to the situation. this is something u cant teach somebody. its instinctive.

u have to be aware of people

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Ozzi Groper (Thu 18 Sep 2003 01:15:18 GMT)

Kass - best train route/time

Hi Kass
I think the best times vary, but generally between 4:30 and 5:45pm, but the morning peak 8:00am to 9:30am is also great except you cannot experiment much when you have to get to work.
I find most trains running to Box Hill are good (express ex Richmond), especially if you get a Ringwood or Lilydale train cancelled. But try Broadmeadows, Werribee, Frankston and Dandenong lines too. They all have their crushing moments.
But The Met have put a lot of dollars in to ensuring that trains run on time and provide passenger comfort, so sometimes they are not as crowded as they once used to be. We should make a submission relating to chikan comfort also!
Kass. Contact me privately. I have some other ideas too.

Ozzi


Black Shogun (Thu 18 Sep 2003 17:40:50 GMT)

"Bootyology"

I heard a new one in an advertisement for an upcoming movie . . . "Bootyology". Clearly, this means the study of the booty. When you get your Ph.D. in Bootyology, you may be said to be a "Bum Doctor".

Black Shogun
Co-Author of the "Karma Chikan Sutra" - THE leading treatise on the practice of chikan


DR IRON DICKKK (Fri 19 Sep 2003 21:42:34 GMT)

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Black Shogun (Sat 20 Sep 2003 00:36:01 GMT)

Nanbread - London Concerts

Nan, I did some simple internet research and found several sites where one can find out about concerts in London. One site was called "EventsInLondon". They had concerts listed, their locations, how to buy tickets, etc. Use any good search engine, type in some key words, and voila!

For example, if I were planning to come to London soon, I could go online and buy a ticket for Busta Ryhmes at Wembley . . . and then "busta nut" in English girl bum cracks. All night long, all night long.

Black Shogun


Black Shogun (Sat 20 Sep 2003 13:17:48 GMT)

Central Park Concert

Any of you chikans going to see the big Dave Matthews Band concert in Central Park? It sounds like it's going to be a HUGE event. And, I heard it was for free. Not sure about that part, but sounds like it will be "crack packed" my New York chikans. Not to mention the crowded trains and streets as people go to and leave the park. Beast, maybe you should hurry home! LOL :-)

Black Shogun


rockhard (Sat 20 Sep 2003 18:54:16 GMT)

Voodoo 2003 -Black Shogun You Need To Be Here

This is the event I am going to. It will take place Oct 31- Nov 2. There are twenty something bands performing.
http://www.voodoomusicfest.com/- Be patient with this link. It will be worth the wait. They show you a scene from previous Voodoo Music Festivals. They avg. ~80,000 strong.
Serious frottage will be taking place with all those drunk freaks.


Black Shogun (Sat 20 Sep 2003 19:28:24 GMT)

Re: rockhard - Voodoo 2003

DAAAMMMNNNNN!!! That's what I'm talkin about! Buttfuckin for DAYS at a music fest like that! With all those top name bands too??? And my boy 50 Cent is gonna be there too!? I'd be going to that if it was near me! I envy those who can make a gathering such as this:
http://www.voodoomusicfest.com/#

Black Shogun


webmaster: ayashi (Sat 20 Sep 2003 21:07:22 GMT)

Re: Terminology

I know that it is far from perfect. But please be patient boys. By the way, do you want the terminology page a joke page or serious?


Black Shogun (Sat 20 Sep 2003 21:37:34 GMT)

Re: Master Ayashi - Terminology A Joke Or Serious?

Master Ayashi, in my opinion, by nature it's just going to have to be a little bit of both I think. I mean, the terms you have referenced thus far are no doubt terms that refer to the thoughts, writings, and/or techniques of serious, hardcore chikans. However, some, including myself, will naturally find a lot of it funny just because it IS funny! Plain and simple.

Each person will just h

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PBH (Tue 23 Sep 2003 05:53:19 GMT)

PBG and nanbread

hey brothers

what are u upto offlate? how is ur yoga, tai chi and humping getting along?
do visit dubai during the DSF. its fun here man. there are babes from 90 countries. imagine the experience. u can go sand duning, surfing, visit burj al arab- the most luxurious hotel in the world,go the horse races, shop till u drop at some of the best malls, and enjoy the night life of dubai thats really teeming with hot babes

cheers
pbh


Black Shogun (Tue 23 Sep 2003 13:09:19 GMT)

Re: PBH - Dubai

PBH, I have a friend who is considering a job based in Dubai. He would have to travel throughout the region, but he would be based in Dubai. I have done some research on the place myself (ever since coming to know you). It does appear to be impressive indeed. Still, I cannot believe that the humping opportunities there are that great from a comparative standpoint. And again, I think that region is the last place on earth where I would try to hump. You are brave my friend.

Black Shogun


aise_hi_masti (Tue 23 Sep 2003 20:35:23 GMT)

conversation as probe

I know master chikans like Black Shogun and PBH have used the conversation technique several times. How useful is it? I have found it to be a pretty dependable probe for determining degree of consent -- I've often found women like to be engaged in conversation while they are being rubbed up. It makes them feel safe knowing that they now have a channel of communication by which to express their unw

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X (Wed 24 Sep 2003 01:09:16 GMT)

Untitled

I find that females who aren't into conversation are the ones who will keep quiet when they are being groped and/or humped. Some chatty females will be playful and into chikan, but some are also bitches who will make a scene. It's a gamble when it comes to talkative women.


Black Shogun (Wed 24 Sep 2003 01:57:21 GMT)

Re: aise hi masti - Chikan & Chatting

I don't believe that talkativeness in a woman is a reliable indicator at all as to whether she will consent or not. Rather, the real value in being able to start up a friendly chat is that this is liable to lower her guard.

That is, a woman who asks you to snap a pic of her with her friend, or who asks to borrow a pen, is not likely to expect that you soon will be slapping her buttocks, fingering her crack, or humping her in her ass.

Her guard is lowered, so she is more likely to be totally unaware if you're slick :-) And if she does become aware, then she will probably be more stunned into inaction than anything else.

Black Shogun


aise_hi_masti (Wed 24 Sep 2003 14:05:26 GMT)

re: chikan and chatting (empirical evidence considered)

Black Shogun,

I think you may be right. But I don't understand how it may be possible for a woman to not become aware of a set of fingers travelling up her mound.
Consider what happened to me on the bus yesterday. I met a middle-aged white woman whom I had chikaned the day before after striking up a conversation. She had seemed eager to talk then, and had not reacted while I rubbed my fi

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Black Shogun (Wed 24 Sep 2003 14:13:32 GMT)

Re: aise hi masti - Chikan & Chatting (Empirical Evidence Considered)

I don't know too much about chikaning "mounds" while chatting with a woman. In fact, I never said that I chikan a woman while talking to her at the same time. No. The chat comes BEFORE the chikan (and maybe even after!). Before . . . it sets the stage. Then later, when her attention is elsewhere, you go for the "goods". I like butts, so normally I'm behind my lovely where she doesn't have he

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aise_hi_masti (Wed 24 Sep 2003 14:48:06 GMT)

Re: chikan and chatting

Black SHogun,

I know your specialty lies in chikaning the rear end, and I appreciate you referring me to Kass. But the broader question remains the same -- and who better to turn to than you -- how can you be confident that the woman is willing? I know what your response is going to be -- don't know, depends on the case, and you can never really be confident.

Kass, PBH, Nanbread:

Any thoughts?

Also, it might be nice to chat on yahoo messenger with some fellow chikans. But I don't wish to intrude upon anybody's privacy (other than bubble butts and silky mounds!)


Black Shogun (Wed 24 Sep 2003 15:14:43 GMT)

Re: aise hi masti - How Do You Know She's Willing?

Actually, you can know whenever she gives you a clear, unambiguous sign. For a buttfucker like me, a sure sign is when she sticks her butt back and lets you jack that ass. Or steps back to maintain the contact. Or, she might look at you and smile or start a conversation. Sometimes, she may openly cooperate by humping you right back. At other times, maybe she will just stand perfectly still .

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Ozzi Groper (Wed 24 Sep 2003 16:07:58 GMT)

GropeMan - Tits

I have always loved tits.

My earliest chikan experiences were sneaking handfuls of tits in crowded places. I graduated to bums, thighs, and, as the Master Shogun calls it... the "cootchie biscuit". But tits remain one of my loves... nice, young, firm, and preferably not much more than a good handful. The coming of the braless era was a boon for me, as cupping breasts through one layer of clothing was nearly as good as the real thing... especially in night clubs where the girls might be wearing the slinkiest of satin or sheer outfits. Yum!!!


Nanbread (Wed 24 Sep 2003 22:09:38 GMT)

chikan and chatting (empirical evidence considered)

In the past I have chikaned girls whilst chatting to them. My success was due to,

1. Confident smile
2. Good conversationist
3. Good looking (got the admit I am not a super model but does help if the girl finds you handsome looking).

Whilst chatting and in conversatin they have never rejected my chikan advances and tended to giggle more.


Ozzi Groper (Thu 25 Sep 2003 02:16:38 GMT)

Nanbread - chikan and chatting (empirical evidence considered)

Nanbread

What sort of chikaning did you do while you were talking. How obvious was it? How did you go about it?

Sounds very consensual to me. Did you ever get further? like getting in the sack with any of them or having them reciprocate in some way?

Ozzi


Ozzi Groper (Fri 26 Sep 2003 00:03:39 GMT)

PBP, Gropeman - Feeling Knockers

I use the Knocker Bouncing technique, but raise my hand to my chest as I brush past, or on public transport, and ensure contact. This is the "Back Handed Knocker" technique ;-)
In well crowded environments, I often position myself so that I can feel the breasts of the woman I am interested in pressing against my back. Because we are so close, I find I can move my hand behind me up my back and a

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Nanbread (Fri 26 Sep 2003 16:34:08 GMT)

Ozzi Groper

In the past, I have got away with rubbing my palm in circles on a females buttocks whilst chatting, joking to them and giving them big smiles.

I have come to the conclusion there are girls who dont mind being groped so long as they have some kind of physical attraction towards you or you can use humour to bring a smile to her face whilst groping her

Couple of times I would squeeze past women in bars placing my hands around there waists and gently pulling them towards the middle of my legs as I pass by. If they turn round in shock, I look them in the eye and smile. They 8/10 girls smile back and dont say anything. The remaining two just dont say anything or give me a mean look.

Never had the opportunity to do a stink finger or pussy fingering


Ozzi Groper (Mon 29 Sep 2003 11:44:14 GMT)

Re: Feather - Gathering experience

Keep going. Tell us more! I love the way you tell of your experience. It made me wish I could have been there with you.
I'm surprised you didn't have a hard on, but then I guess everyone's different.

Ozzi


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THE FEATHER (Mon 29 Sep 2003 15:51:06 GMT)

Re: Ozzy Groper

Hi OzzyG. Thx for replying !
Concerning: hardon, well mister the evening wasn't over yet. I had just no time to write the rest. But you're right - as far as it was very exciting touching two such nice young girls simultaneously there should have been something moving - even at that point. But it was one of the days: you're looking forward to it for a week or so and then you find it different than expected. And plz don't forget: I'm still a newby. It was my first concert-experience. Might have been too much feelings to compete with - but I loved every second of it... . As soon as I have time I'll write down the rest !

FEATHER


THE FEATHER (Mon 29 Sep 2003 16:21:41 GMT)

re: aise_hi_masti - a wonderful day

Hi and thx for this wonderful story.

You must have really balls to touch a woman that is sitting beside you right on the crotch and flirt at the same time with her. Plz tell - you take a high risk that she makes a scene, calls the busdriver - whoever... Worst case - she could turn you in. Did you know before she was not the type ? Or can you rely that you are a smart-looking charming "irresistable" guy. Or do you simply not care ? I think I could never do it this way because of simply shitting in my pants. But as Ozzi Groper said: everyone is different...

FEATHER


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aise_hi_masti (Mon 29 Sep 2003 16:50:13 GMT)

Re - a wonderful day

Feather,

Thanks for your feedback. As many master chikans here have said, you have to judge the woman at every step. Since the upper thigh is so sensitive, women who don't want to be groped get alerted immediately and shift or communicate resistance. I usually don't pursue them. But others will welcome the touch -- although I agree that this is a grey zone and you can't really be sure. I've

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FEATHER (Mon 29 Sep 2003 19:55:22 GMT)

aise_hi_masti: thank you !

I read alot in the archives here but I think I have not read it yet in such a intelligble way. Thank you for the enlightenment - and I mean it !!! It seems perfectly logical what you write. On principle you must be right - but I ask myself if this way to success is as easy in a country like Germany where people are (and like to be) controlled and occupied with keeping up their reputation. By the w

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PBH (Tue 30 Sep 2003 08:48:27 GMT)

aise hi masti

hey buddy
ur arguements over seducing does make sense at some points and do sound intelligible. but i am sorry to say that your story of groping that woman in bus sounded too good to be true if it happened in india. most women in india dont wear business suits and hop into buses, and the chances of hugging them in public or they letting u do it is quite improbable. i am not saying that that its impossible. however the chances for strangers to do it is too unlikely. i have widely traveled across different parts of india and studied various transportation modes, and its traffic, commuters and what are the best moves for gropers like us. this bbs will honor good and true stories. dont take my comments as an offense.

enjoy humping

cheers
PBH


aise_hi_masti (Tue 30 Sep 2003 14:22:13 GMT)

PBH - doubts over story

PBH -

I am a little offended by the doubts you've cast on my story. First of all, I don't live in India, I live in the U.S. This is a story from a town here. I agree that such things are rare in India, although I must tell you that a similar incident happened to me in Bombay on a Best bus -- although the woman wasn't wearing a business suit!
This is a different kind of chikaning -- it'

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aise_hi_masti (Tue 30 Sep 2003 14:29:40 GMT)

Re- doubts over story

PBH --

Just to finish telling the first of the four episodes I described in the previous posting -- about the teenaged girl on a bus in West Bengal, she reached around to play with my fingers on her breast and then slowly lifted her kurta (shirt) on the side. Then she pulled my fingers in and placed them right on her bra. Needless to say, I took it forward from there!

Aise_hi_masti


FEATTHER (Tue 30 Sep 2003 15:35:37 GMT)

Re: Aise Hi Masti, PBH - Doubts

Hi Folks,

aise spoke of a wonderful experience on bus. His further explanations show that one hasn't such good experiences each day. I'd think we should not spoil each others stories by questioning if something was real or not real. A good story is a good story. And I like to read such stories because they make me hot and I can learn from reading and discussing. But you don't encourage peop

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PBH (Tue 30 Sep 2003 17:22:05 GMT)

aise hi masti

hello friend
my statement that ur story sounded fabricated was based that it cudn't happen in india. since u live in usa, the scenario is different. i recalled several encounters of mine which somewhat match with yours. please dont feel that i am questioning the integrity of ur stories. i was just pondering over the probablity factor. now that u have dispelled all doubts, my apologies.
keep up the good work.

cheers
PBH


aise_hi_masti (Tue 30 Sep 2003 17:28:08 GMT)

PBH

PBH-

No problem at all. I'm glad we cleared that up. Will look forward to reading more of your exploits. Let's chat on yahoo messenger sometime. (I keep saying that but everybody gives me the royal ignore!)

Aise_hi_masti


aise_hi_masti (Tue 30 Sep 2003 20:30:32 GMT)

back to chikanin -- how about a survey

All,

How about doing a survey to get a clearer idea of how women really feel about different aspects of chikaning? I don't really know how we would do it, or what the questions would be. All I know is that the questionnaire would have to be fairly short and entertaining, we'd have to distribute it electronically and we'd need some way to guarantee that respondents are indeed women. Any ideas?

Aise hi masti


Black Shogun (Tue 30 Sep 2003 20:42:26 GMT)

Re: aise_ hi_ masti - Survey

Why do such a survey my friend? Don't you think it's pretty clear what the findings of such a survey would be? Quite negative towards chikans and most all aspects of the practice . . . don't you think?

Black Shogun


aise_hi_masti (Tue 30 Sep 2003 20:57:29 GMT)

survey

Shogun,

I agree the knee-jerk response (and the politically correct response) from women would be negative. But is it possible to design a smarter survey that would get beneath the surface? Like --

Whenever a man rubs up against you in a crowded place, you --

A) swing around and give him a dirty look
B) move away noticeably and wait for his next move because you are curiou

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ozzi groper (Wed 01 Oct 2003 00:18:04 GMT)

Re: Survey

Perhaps we could leave a permanent survey on the web pages with some sort of automated survey results viewable by all. Using the same system they use for polls where second-time voting is not possible, we can build up some sort of statistic over time.

Of course we would never be able to ensure that those voting are indeed women or honest with their replies which puts into question any survey results. And it is also true that even among those who bitch the most there is some degree of lust to be on the receiving end of some chikan activity, given the right moment.

Ozzi


FEATHER (Wed 01 Oct 2003 08:09:20 GMT)

Re Ozzi Groper - Japanese Tourist

Hi OzziG.,

thx for your story. I think it's good to read stories that show that our biz is not one in which one hurls from one success to the other. I read here that it takes a lot of trials to find females that are really players.

I found out for myself that in most cases they let you do something as long as you don't push it too far. Some flinch back or go away. But an incredible a

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pbh (Wed 01 Oct 2003 08:12:51 GMT)

women survey

aise hi masti


sex is still a big taboo. no matter what happens most ppl use masks to hide their sexual intentions. women do not indulge in this talk as its embarrasing for them to disclose their preferences and the idea of stranger groping them. its like being willfully raped in public.some women who like to get groped will not bother to answer a survey to showcase their intentions. on the net u will get fake replies. remember that there are men prowling on the net for sex based content, they will pose as respondents and doctor ur survey.

PS: i will look forward to chat with u on yahoo. infact u can send me offline msgs, and i will reply if i am not online.

cheers
pbh


Black Shogun (Wed 01 Oct 2003 13:35:53 GMT)

Re: feellybreast

GropeMan . . . is that you using another handle? LOL! Anyway, as you can tell from my stories, I'm really not a fanatic about titty gropes. Now, I can tell you all about mounting some buttcheeks and getting some crack. But the titties, not so much so just because I rarely go for them. But when I do, it's usually in a really, really crowded spot making use of my forearms and the backs of my ha

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ozzi groper (Wed 01 Oct 2003 14:05:50 GMT)

Re: feellybreast

I wrote about some of the techniques I use for feeling breasts in my reply to
PBP, Gropeman on Fri 26 Sep 2003 00:03:39 GMT "Feeling Knockers" where I suggested some new glossary terms.
My "crowded knocker squasher" is the technique described by Master Shogun that he sometimes practices in the second row at concerts. The main thing I would do different is seek out a braless girl with nice firm well-endowed knockers. On a few occasions I have pushed my hand under her T-shirt and actually held her naked tit in my hand... only once continually for a long time.


aise_hi_masti (Wed 01 Oct 2003 15:04:06 GMT)

clear signs

It's amazing how easy it is for women to unambiguously show unwillingness when they want to. That's what makes me wonder about all the women who "act ignorant." For example, over the past two days, I've found myself being very clearly rejected even before making any physical contact.
I had my arms folded, and my hand was inching close to the woman's thighs -- and in each case, my targets simply

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Bad Boy (Wed 01 Oct 2003 20:04:49 GMT)

Re:Black Shogun-The one that got away

yeah Sho', I feel you but i didn't wanna risk a scene i only get on ass if it's reciprocated. i read some stories on here(i don't know if it's true or not) of Chikans' taking the ass on trains or whatever. that aint my Steez' i test the ass if she gives it back i get on it, if she moves i stay put or move away i don't chase or continue to "test" that, that's how cats get arrested and I sure didn't want this chick finding some flatfoot on the train platform and dropping a dollar on me. Feel me?


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webmaster: ayashi (Wed 01 Oct 2003 21:12:29 GMT)

Re: more about japanese women

If I can tell which woman is game, I would not quit groping. But generally speaking, a girl who dresses quiet, speaks quiet and acts quiet is good-tempered. She would not make a scene. But the best is a giggling girl, specially if she giggles because you grope. She is safe. Though she may attract a lot of attention if she giggles too loud.


webmaster: ayashi (Wed 01 Oct 2003 21:13:34 GMT)

Re: survey

Your questionnair looks interesting, aise_hi_masti. But you cannot ensure that answerers are all women.


Black Shogun (Thu 02 Oct 2003 13:21:38 GMT)

Chikan On The Verge Of Being Elected Governor Of Largest U.S. State!

Women Claim Schwarzenegger Groped Them
By JIM WASSERMAN, AP

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Oct. 2) -- As Arnold Schwarzenegger prepared to capitalize on his lead in polls with a state bus tour, fresh allegations surfaced that he sexually harassed women in the past.

Schwarzenegger's camp denied the allegations.

Six women accused the Republican actor in interviews with the Los An

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Black Shogun (Thu 02 Oct 2003 16:27:15 GMT)

Re: Ozzi Groper - New Tram Routes

Ozzi, these Asian women you write about in your stories sure do seem to be rather docile and timid, even when you say they always appear to know exactly what you are doing. What do you think accounts for this? The only Asian I clearly recall trying to hump elbowed me in the ribs (See "Tippy Toes Concert Booty" . . . I think that's the story).

Black Shogun


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aise_hi_masti (Thu 02 Oct 2003 16:52:21 GMT)

correlation between women's docile nature and reactions to chikaning

Shogun and Ozzi,

A rule of thumb would be -- more repressed the society, more docile the women, and greater their acceptance of chikaning. But that's too simplistic and doesn't always work at the individual level.
However, many docile women have the advantage of appearing very innocent -- so they feel like they can get chikaned without attracting a lot of attention (from other passengers etc) That's why, I think, many docile women evolve into receptive chikan targets.


ozzi groper (Fri 03 Oct 2003 01:52:43 GMT)

Re: Timid and Docile Asians

Shogun. There are probably many reasons for this.
Australia is in a unique position being in close proximity to all the Asian nations. Tertiary education is a big export with many Asians coming here for a number of years to study, and some evntually receive the opportunity to work and settle here, which is an attractive incentive for many of them. It is not necessarily easy to come here, and ev

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Black Shogun (Fri 03 Oct 2003 11:53:04 GMT)

Asians On Asian Women

Yes Ozzi, that was nice writing outlining your thoughts on the "docile" Asian woman. But I wonder what our Asian chikan bretheren have to say about all this? Why is it that these Asian women act and behave in the manner that Ozzi Groper has reported? I want to hear a view on this from Asians.

Black Shogun


aise_hi_masti (Fri 03 Oct 2003 13:56:24 GMT)

Asian women in western societies

I disagree with Ozzi. Asian women may be docile in Australia and non-resistant to chikan but that is certainly not the case in the U.S. I've tried chikaning lots of Asian women here and my success rate has been very low. It's very complicated. Don't forget that timidness is the same thing as fear, and while a little bit of fear in the woman may help the chikan in his initial moves, a higher degree of fear is not conducive to chikaning. A woman who's a little nervous is a good target and may be won over steadily, but a woman who begins to panic will move away or get off the bus or take some other drastic action that leaves the chikan no room to win her confidence.


Black Shogun (Fri 03 Oct 2003 14:39:58 GMT)

Re: aise_hi_masti - Docile Asian Woman A Myth?

Asian women who have been "Americanized" will not be so docile . . . I assure you. This is why Shogun prefers to travel to a place such as Japan, or perhaps a lesser developed Asian country, to sample the delights of docile Asian "cherry blossom bottoms". I have been to Asia before, but I was too young to know anything of chikan. I remember people literally hanging outside the doors of packed buses. Now that I am grown, I know what to do :-)

Black Shogun


PBH (Fri 03 Oct 2003 15:49:51 GMT)

docile women

ozzi groper has made a fantastic analysis of docile women. to my knowledge, its true. whatever u have observed is so practical. and maybe thats why u are so successful at groping. carry on my friend.


ozzi groper (Sat 04 Oct 2003 11:20:56 GMT)

Re: PBH - The Ultimate Butt Humping Fiesta

Wow! You told the story well. I felt almost like I was right there with you, and definitely wish I/we could really have been there with you. Definitely enough for all of us, and then some. I have been lucky to be at events where there were so many young and beautiful, virginal babes. The problem is standing out in the crowd because you aren't in the same age group and hence attracting attention to yourself.
Standing at the door as some sort of security person is a good ploy, and I have done it myself, acting as an organiser, and even offering directions and assistance.
Thanks for the story.
Ozzi


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ozzi groper (Sat 04 Oct 2003 13:43:46 GMT)

Re: aise_hi_masti - Asian women in western societies

I agree with Shogun. Asians who have become westernised are usually not good candidates. For example, here in Australia we have many Chinese descendants from the gold rush days in the mid 1800's whom I would rarely consider. Similarly, second generation Vietnamese, usually descendants of the boat people generally do not make good candidates as they have been taught from a very young age to stand u

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Black Shogun (Sun 05 Oct 2003 16:33:08 GMT)

Re: African Bottom Fucker - Advice

I do not live in London. So, I won't pretend to be the expert. However, I can repeat what is generally known here. The English like to drink a lot . . . get sloppy drunk . . . even outdoing the Americans on this point, drinking us under the table :-) I saw this with my own eyes while visiting Amsterdam where the English were the drunkest and loudest of the lot.

So, if you show up in the

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pbh (Mon 06 Oct 2003 10:06:09 GMT)

senior chikans

shogun
dont underrate the senior chikans. infact in my experience, their age proves to be their plus point. no one suspects them. they might not cum into a crack like they used to. but they get to fiddle and grope butts much more easily than the younger lot. people are more tolerant and respectful towards them. the only trouble with them is that they dont last long on bumpy rides, as their feet

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ozzi groper (Mon 06 Oct 2003 11:24:53 GMT)

Re: Feather - A Day of Titbrushing

Funny how techniques are the same everywhere. But I must confess I prefer the crowds where I can actually get to cup and hold breasts - especially of women/girls who are not wearing any bra underneath. Of course this is not always possible, so the "titbrushing" is always a good and easy fall back. I find I can use this even when crossing at traffic lights during the lunch hour where the opposite side is finally reaching the curb on your side and you appear to "need" to make the lights and have to brush past quick.

And women with their hands behind their backs. Well! Aren't they just waiting for us? I have done this many times.

Ozzi


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Black Shogun (Mon 06 Oct 2003 15:40:08 GMT)

Brazilian "Bunda"

I just finished reading an article on Brazilian culture where I learned that high on the Brazilian list for beauty is a nice "bunda" . . . or butt. So important is the bunda in Brazilian society that billboards and pictures intended to portray attractive women often only depict the women from behind. So AssGrabbinChris, you just may be right. Brazil appears to be a bum lover's dream.

Black Shogun


Black Shogun (Fri 03 Oct 2003 14:39:58 GMT)

Re: aise_hi_masti - Docile Asian Woman A Myth?

Asian women who have been "Americanized" will not be so docile . . . I assure you. This is why Shogun prefers to travel to a place such as Japan, or perhaps a lesser developed Asian country, to sample the delights of docile Asian "cherry blossom bottoms". I have been to Asia before, but I was too young to know anything of chikan. I remember people literally hanging outside the doors of packed buses. Now that I am grown, I know what to do :-)

Black Shogun


ozzi groper (Sat 04 Oct 2003 11:20:56 GMT)

Re: PBH - The Ultimate Butt Humping Fiesta

Wow! You told the story well. I felt almost like I was right there with you, and definitely wish I/we could really have been there with you. Definitely enough for all of us, and then some. I have been lucky to be at events where there were so many young and beautiful, virginal babes. The problem is standing out in the crowd because you aren't in the same age group and hence attracting attention to yourself.
Standing at the door as some sort of security person is a good ploy, and I have done it myself, acting as an organiser, and even offering directions and assistance.
Thanks for the story.
Ozzi


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ozzi groper (Sat 04 Oct 2003 13:43:46 GMT)

Re: aise_hi_masti - Asian women in western societies

I agree with Shogun. Asians who have become westernised are usually not good candidates. For example, here in Australia we have many Chinese descendants from the gold rush days in the mid 1800's whom I would rarely consider. Similarly, second generation Vietnamese, usually descendants of the boat people generally do not make good candidates as they have been taught from a very young age to stand u

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Black Shogun (Mon 06 Oct 2003 02:32:28 GMT)

A Question for Senior Chikans

When a chikan becomes old and gray, what are the best locales, methods, and tactics for the aging chikan to still get some crack on a consistent basis? Clearly, concerts and rowdy crowds are way too rough. And after a while, you no longer fit in at bars, even at so-called "all ages" bars and nightclubs. So, what is the senior chikan to do? Perhaps the best thing is to . . . ummmm . . . just hang "it" up.

Black Shogun


pbh (Mon 06 Oct 2003 10:06:09 GMT)

senior chikans

shogun
dont underrate the senior chikans. infact in my experience, their age proves to be their plus point. no one suspects them. they might not cum into a crack like they used to. but they get to fiddle and grope butts much more easily than the younger lot. people are more tolerant and respectful towards them. the only trouble with them is that they dont last long on bumpy rides, as their feet

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ozzi groper (Mon 06 Oct 2003 11:24:53 GMT)

Re: Feather - A Day of Titbrushing

Funny how techniques are the same everywhere. But I must confess I prefer the crowds where I can actually get to cup and hold breasts - especially of women/girls who are not wearing any bra underneath. Of course this is not always possible, so the "titbrushing" is always a good and easy fall back. I find I can use this even when crossing at traffic lights during the lunch hour where the opposite side is finally reaching the curb on your side and you appear to "need" to make the lights and have to brush past quick.

And women with their hands behind their backs. Well! Aren't they just waiting for us? I have done this many times.

Ozzi


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ozzi groper (Mon 06 Oct 2003 12:03:46 GMT)

Re: senior chikans

I have to laugh. I am a senior chikan, and I NEVER sit nor do I miss an opportunity. I haven't been to concert or a club on my own for perhaps 15 years - maybe more, so I never get a chance to get in with the best of the young ones right up front as I would obviously stand out as a chikan and not one of the crowd. But there are many events where the complete cross-section of age groups come, and t

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beez (guest) (Mon 06 Oct 2003 13:34:21 GMT)

Untitled

Theold greybeard went to a blues concert last week.It was in the courtyard of a semi large bar.He had fortified himself with ginsing, zinc, eggwhites,vitamin e and gods greatest gift to old farts (much better than wisdom) VIAGRA..The crowd was of mixed ages as he knew it would be so he didn't stick out except in front


Black Shogun (Mon 06 Oct 2003 15:40:08 GMT)

Brazilian "Bunda"

I just finished reading an article on Brazilian culture where I learned that high on the Brazilian list for beauty is a nice "bunda" . . . or butt. So important is the bunda in Brazilian society that billboards and pictures intended to portray attractive women often only depict the women from behind. So AssGrabbinChris, you just may be right. Brazil appears to be a bum lover's dream.

Black Shogun


tony (Wed 08 Oct 2003 03:20:34 GMT)

A.R.C. ??

Soon we'll have the association of retired chikans..lol Maybe we should all start a retirement fund.


ozzi groper (Wed 08 Oct 2003 04:28:50 GMT)

Re: ARC

Hahaha!!! Retirement fund sounds good. Don't forget benefit assistance with viagra, and pensioner discounts to grope fests!! Maybe benefits include bringing the girls to you to we don't have to get out of our wheelchairs?


FEATHER (Wed 08 Oct 2003 07:33:17 GMT)

Re: ozzi groper - cup and hold

Hi ozzi groper,
for shure cupping and holding braless breasts is more satisfying than titbrushing. Only the thought of it makes me horny. But as I wrote in another contri - over here you really have to look hardly for crowds that make this possible. Public traffic is not so stuffed as in the capitals elsewhere.

Mightbe also be me being still a newbie that I didn't find the courage for cupping except one time at a youth and lifestyle fair. But this was extremely exciting. I mean grabbin a woman's tit needs for shure a very special situation to get away with it and not being identified and outed as molester. Would you like to tell some examples of cupping and holding - how you do it - some you didn't relate before ?
kind regards



Black Shogun (Wed 08 Oct 2003 11:58:43 GMT)

Groper Takes Office

Internationally famous bodybuilder, actor, and GROPER Arnold Schwarzenegger has been elected Governor of California, the largest U.S. state! So large is California that if it were to stand alone as an independent country, it would have the 5th largest economy . . . in the entire world! And now, a chikan is to manage it? Unbelievable. The first chapter of ARC (Association of Retired Chikans) can now be established in the golden state.

Black Shogun


ozzi groper (Wed 08 Oct 2003 14:37:14 GMT)

Re: Feather - Cup and Hold

You are right. There are not many ways to actually "cup and hold". And apart from a full-on visible Schwarzenegger-style grope that can get you (and still might get him) into trouble, you really do need a tight crowd situation. Most common is where everyone is packed tight and you can put your hand in between the breast and whoever it is pressing against. This "Knocker Broker" technique can happen

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FEATHER (Wed 08 Oct 2003 21:26:25 GMT)

Re: ozzi groper cup and hold

Ozzi, are you some kind of "rubber man" or what ? "I would take my other hand and swing it across my back as if to clutch my arm". I tried to get my arms into this position just for trial and will meet my physiotherapist tomorrow to have the damage undone. thx alot for this hint ;-). But as I had to laugh alot over your knocker terminology - I'm already better by now... lol
FEATHER


ozzi groper (Thu 09 Oct 2003 02:21:24 GMT)

Re: Feather - Cup and Hold

Sorry about your back. I hope she's a nice physio ;-)
Maybe I have longer arms or you are a big guy with a big back :-D
Try grabbing your other forearm, then just let go and move your hand into position. It definitely works well. Working out regularly in gym will definitely improve your agility.
I didn't mention that I have a summer sports jacket that has no lining, and sometimes use this to hide my arm/hand up my back in less crowded crush situations. Not as good as direct contact, but then, better than nothing.

Ozzi


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