Memorable Comments No.6

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Name: webmaster

Title: Warning: a thread may cause damage

"Found this Story" posted by ???, through interesting fiction, includes misleading information. A thread around a clitoris or a penis does not stimulate carnal sensation. Although I do not exclude usage of a gimmic for mental satisfaction, tying a thread, if poorly operated, may cause acute pain and may result permanent damage. If you do it, do it only with the utmost care. And you never use a rubber band.

A thread tied round a clitoris or a penis is rather an instrument of sexual torture. A gang of ... 4182 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Tue Oct 24 21:16:25 2000 GMT


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Name: Poster

Title: Here's an Article

To defend AFS Japan a little bit, at least they informed us about the molesters that are waiting for girls on Japanese trains. Old Japanese men love to get on extremely crowded trains and then use the opportunity to touch high school girls or girls below/over that age. These molesters even have their own magazine called "Finger press". It is a monthly that contains train tables with statistics (so molesters can check when trains are full) and stories/interviews with girls who have experienced being molested ... 1885 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 30
Sex: M

Date: Sat Oct 28 20:52:27 2000 GMT


Name: sta28llion

Title: Looking for u quite a while

Well, I have been a groper in crowded places for over 10 years now, and you bet I find it immensely arousing when a stranger concedes to my stealthingly fondling carresses. I have groped in buses, trains, queues, fairs etc. and the high that I get in doing so is incomparable to any other form of sex.

Fondling female co-passengers in buses is irresistible to me. Quite a few times I have fondled women sitting in the seat right in front of me, with my hand slowly pushing through the space between her se ... 243 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 30
Sex: M

Date: Thu Nov 9 07:41:07 2000 GMT


Name: London groper

Title: UK girls love being groped

Having come from the US I now live in London and have found English girls of school age more passive, even compliant, than their New York counterparts. I have fondled several schoolgirl asses in the Tube (subway)at peak travel times. On one occasion I hiked the back of a girl's skirt and rubbed her ass over her panties. Have other chikans had similar experiences in the UK?

Age: 44
Sex: M

Date: Sat Nov 11 21:52:59 2000 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: A Japanese policeman caught for touching a woman

The latest news says a 43 years old Japanese police school instructor was arrested for touching a woman. He admits it and says "I was drunk."

The trouble took place in the commuter train just outside of Tokyo. The policeman was sitting on the seat about 9:30PM. He touched a woman standing in front of him on the thigh. When the woman looked him sharply, he flashed her V-sign. He was, however, arrested by the woman and other passengers.

Date: Sun Nov 12 21:19:31 2000 GMT


Name: Spike

Title: Untitled

Anyone see the movie "Kinjite-Forbidden Subjects" with Charles Bronson? It had a pretty decent chikan scene in it.

Date: Tue Nov 21 01:24:26 2000 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: chikan workshop

We had chikan (better to say anti-chikan) workshop yesterday in Tokyo. A Japanese NPO (No to chikan crime! Train passengers' society) hosted the conference at a small room in the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Office.

The chairperson read the society's report to the meeting. According to the report, about half of 25 Japanese railroad companies asked to fill out a questionnaire simply did not care to answer. None had anything written for a station employee about measures to meet a chikan crime.
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Date: Tue Nov 28 21:27:35 2000 GMT


Name: a kindergarten teacher

Title: naughty boys

I'm working for a kinderpagten. Boys are naughty. I don't think they understand it but they touch my bottom or grab my boobs. Their latest favorite is "play sexual harassment." I don't know where they get that word. A boy sneaks up behind me. He grabs my pants and pulls them down with a cry.

Age: 23
Sex: woman

Date: Sun Dec 10 14:04:45 2000 GMT


Name: The Crock

Title:

We used to do that to my kindergarten teacher. I got my first boner when I was five, and all I knew was that it was fun and felt good. I used to stick my hands down the back of her pants...one time in the gymansium we tackled her to the ground and started tickling her. I got between her legs and started tickling her crotch and pubic bone area, and also the bottom of her butt. I don't think she even noticed with all of the kids grabbing at her, and tugging on her clothes, and running their hands all over her ... 31 more byte(s), click here!

Age:
Sex:

Date: Sun Dec 10 23:01:03 2000 GMT


Name: H Sensei

Title: Untitled

A few days ago I had one of those rare experiences; a woman who enjoys being felt up on the train. She actually moved her bag to provide the necessary cover for me to grope her tits. I love living in Japan!

Date: Tue Dec 26 16:02:37 2000 GMT


Name: H Sensei

Title: Fucking Schoolgirls

In case you haven't had sex with a Japanese schoolgirl yet, I'm just writing to say I can highly recommend it. They are wise beyond their years!

Age: 16 please
Sex: on your knees

Date: Tue Jan 16 09:00:56 2001 GMT


Name: joky

Title: nitpicking

it should sound carping but i cannot but wonder if a grope is a crime. and this site is for groping, isn't it?

Date: Tue Jan 23 22:39:07 2001 GMT


Name: suburbacide

Title: movies

before i say anything else, thank you webmaster for this forum.
now, i tend to agree with joky. in my country groping is a crime and from what i've seen and heard in most other countries it is a crime. couldnt written stories be considered evidence, too.
as joky says this is a groping site. so we are all here because of some interest in groping wether as a chikan/chijo, someone who has been groped, or for our fantasies. there are so few sites that deal with groping(at least english speaking). i know ... 696 more byte(s), click here!

Sex: m

Date: Thu Jan 25 00:21:19 2001 GMT


Name: X

Title: Untitled

"Chikan" may be huge in Japan, but let's not underestimate the prevalence of frotteurism in America. Elevators, subway cars, buses, concerts, lines for the restrooms at Broadway shows, malls at Christmas time, arenas and stadiums, bars and clubs -- wherever people are packed together tightly, there are females being molested, whether they notice the contact or not. That's why it is puzzling to me that there are so few (American) sites on frotteurism, but endless sites on upskirts and other fetishes. It's di ... 278 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Thu Jan 25 17:15:41 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: Re: nitpicking

This site is not for groping. I'm quite happy to see any comments against it.

In additon to that, I'm not against groping by consent. The point is - how to communicate the consent. I wish we can formulate modus operandi with which we can suggest our readiness for a secret adventure and willingness to accept it.

Date: Thu Jan 25 21:44:25 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: Re: movies

I had thought over suburbacide's idea. Having movie clips or other files to share is not bad idea. And setting up file upload cgi is technically not big deal. However, I don't know;

1) a web site where I can set up cgi freely and, at the same time, I can keep files which might be considered as pornographic

2) how to clear a copyright issue

Do you have any suggestions, please?

Date: Fri Jan 26 21:06:59 2001 GMT


Name: secret fingers

Title: from the very beginning

from the very beginning,
i put fingers go through a panty leg.
oh! i've done it!
the woman is stunned.
the woman is on edge.
her expression turns me on.

when i was inexperienced,
tucking up the skirt and
just touching her leg
brought me excitment.

the true pleasure of groping
is this excitment.
my heart beats fast.

teens are the best.
i finger in their tight holes.
older girls resist.
groping is my whole life.

Age: 21
Sex: man

Date: Fri Feb 2 16:10:22 2001 GMT


Name: suburbacide

Title: webmaster

i found something new called pod (omnipod?) that is sort of a free storage space/media player kind of thing. i am not that tech savy and have not been able to get it to work or even figure out if its worth the trouble. have you looked into yahoo briefcase? they store files although i hear its becoming more difficult to download movies. also have you thought about a second area to this site where we could post url's of sites that already have clips we might be interested in? sort of like a movie post seperat ... 48 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Sat Feb 3 15:20:52 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: Re: webmaster

>have you looked into yahoo briefcase?

I did. (I think you are talking about http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chikan_crowd_fondling/join)

>have you thought about a second area to this site where we could post url's of sites that already have clips we might be interested in?

Free for all link page? Good idea. Let me have it in short time.

Date: Sun Feb 4 21:32:21 2001 GMT


Name: Consensual

Title: Action in US

I am with X. There is a lot of frottering going in US, but nobody wants to talk about it. It's understandable, but still disappointing.

I went from a passive frotterer (helplessly packed in a crowded train) to an active frotterer (seeking out situations to get contact) over time. It wasn't as if one day the idea came to me. Sometimes I think I should see a psychiatrist, but I prefer this forum. I don't really want to be cured (if it's in fact a disease.)

I have personally gotten away with ... 1669 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 36
Sex: M

Date: Wed Feb 14 01:09:37 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: Re: chatting up a girl

Chatting with a girl was my favourite just before I quitted a grope entirely. I talked to a girl without touching her, though. In my case, it substituted the true frottage. The best of all, it is legal. There is no law forbids a conversation.

Just like a grope I mark a girl out. A willing or tolerant girl has something in the air. I chat up the girl long before we get into a train. The pre-conversation reveals her tolerance. With the learnt footwork I position myself in front of her, facing each oth ... 1783 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Thu Feb 15 21:07:47 2001 GMT


Name: paul

Title: careful!

September 8, 2000, Friday, Late Edition - Final

SECTION: Section B; Page 10; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk

LENGTH: 261 words

HEADLINE: 5 Arrested on Sex Charges Outside MTV Awards

BYLINE: By ANDY NEWMAN

BODY:
Two men and three teenage boys were arrested outside the MTV Video Music Awards yesterday evening after rubbing up against young women on the jammed sidewalks near Radio City Music Hall, the police said.

All were charged with third-degree sexual abus ... 1425 more byte(s), click here!

Sex: M

Date: Sun Mar 11 15:57:15 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: You are lucky if you are just arrested.....?

A Japanese newspaper reported that a woman cut at a man's head with a knife. The man was on an aisle seat of Shinkansen train when the trouble took place. According to the female assailant he brushed her thigh with his elbow and stared at her when she passed by his side to go to and from toilet.

Date: Sun Apr 1 21:05:00 2001 GMT


Name: MASHER

Title: RE: you're lucky...

I was stabbed with a pencil once. This one I totally misjudged, as I felt that she would have been receptive. As soon as I touched her she elbowed me, and as I was trapped against her but I could do nothing as I felt the sharp pain on my right thigh. I had to throw those pants out as there was a large blood stain on them.

That same leg had been assailed more times than I care to discuss.

Age: 24
Sex: M

Date: Sun Apr 1 23:39:08 2001 GMT


Name: paul

Title: big butts & nuns

This a response to Consensual and a request for Masher, not a story. As to big butts, I often find that I am attracted to women I wouldn't normally be attracted to when I'm pressed against them in a train. For example, a provocative dresser who isn't all that great looking might really call out to be groped, though I wouldn't want to date her, or even have sex with her: once her clothes are off, what's the point?

Also, bitchy looking women. They are not a turn on at all for normal relationships ... 927 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Wed Apr 4 20:41:49 2001 GMT


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Name: mineral water

Title: A girl who fro...

I can tell you how a woman fro... a man. Because I am good-looking and I have been fro... many times.

When a woman fro... a man:

A) warming-up 1; she touches you with a bag, etc. on the butt and checks if you fight shy of it.

B) warming-up 2; after the warm-up 1, she feels inside of your thigh to see if you don't like it.

C) pressing bosom 1; when the train arrives at a station, she presses her breasts on your back as she leaves. she will go ahead of you and look at you after get ... 2271 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 31
Sex: Male

Date: Tue Apr 10 16:51:10 2001 GMT


Name: JERRY

Title: Gropers

man, this site is somethin'. i had groped since highschool and experienced a lot. i thought i was cured when i worked in mid east. (ya know, where women don't get mixed with gents; where women are covered from head to foot with black clothing.) only to find out that whenever i'm out of this arab country, i crave like hell to experience it again.

i read all the messages this board is maintaining and that made me recall my life as a groper. promise to share my stories in the future. all the ups and ... 254 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 27
Sex: M

Date: Fri Apr 20 16:24:42 2001 GMT


Name: bboy

Title: fingering advice please?

i first remember fingering a girl when i was like 4 years old. she was the girl who lived across the street, and used to come over to play. i've been fascinated by PUSSY ever since i was born--for example, i used to try to look up my first grade teacher's skirt all the time, and she would pull them back down cuz she knew i was looking. anyway, the girl used to wear skirts all the time so i used to pull her panties off and rub my fingers into her moist pussy. now, she's fat, but i haven't fingered anyone ... 1000 more byte(s), click here!

Age: 21
Sex: m

Date: Sun Apr 22 19:43:02 2001 GMT


Name: webmaster

Title: A study on personal distance

Providing separate cars for males and females must be a good measure to head off a frottage. Yet such a measure is rarely practiced by a railroad company.

Now I know why.

An article on the subject has made appearance in a weekly magazine recently. A railroad company actually made a study of it in the past. The study revealed a peculiar human nature. When men and women get in the same car, they are more tolerant about packed together. A crowd of the same sex needs more personal distances among ... 293 more byte(s), click here!

Date: Wed May 9 21:11:51 2001 GMT


I found this (Tue 15 May 2001 13:59:25 GMT)

Untitled

According to police estimates, the number of on-train molestations will easily exceed last year's figure, perhaps by as much as 50 percent.

But women have been fighting back. In June, a woman grabbed her molester and dragged him off the train, right into the arms of police.

The molester turned out to be 62-year-old Kang Yong Kwan, a senior official of a pro-North Korean organization

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I found this (Tue 15 May 2001 14:00:53 GMT)

How to Protect Yourself from Chikan

     All trains and subways in Tokyo and other cities around Tokyo are terribly crowded during rush hour. In addition to the crowds on trains, young female passengers have to go through one more trial on a train. They must protect themselves from Chikans, men who touch women on the train. Women who are working or studying in Tokyo have to keep three things in mind when the

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I found this (Tue 15 May 2001 14:02:25 GMT)

Sex and the city

Tokyo's sex industry caters to myriad male
fantasies. There are even clubs where men
grope female 'passengers' on fake subway
carriages.


I have heard about a relatively new kind of sex
club, which simulates the environment of a
subway train - taped train noises are pumped into
the room and girls hold on to handles hanging from
the ceiling as the punters feel them up

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Encontré éste (Wed 16 May 2001 14:33:41 GMT)

Argentino chikan arrestado en Shizuoka

“Tocó” a una estudiante en un paradero de
autobús

La policía de Hamamatsu arrestó el 2 de septiembre a un
nikkei argentino sospechoso de tocar debajo de la falda a
una estudiante japonesa mientras ésta se hallaba
esperando el autobús, informó el periódico Shizuoka.

Según la investigación policial, el detenido es Daniel
Alberto Tamashiro, de 42 años, residente en Kobe
(Hyogo).

A las 22.45 del día mencionado Tamashiro tocó a la
estudiante de 16 años en el terminal de autobuses de la
estación de Hamamatsu.

El argentino fue detenido por varios amigos de la víctima y
entregado a la policía.


Tall man (Thu 17 May 2001 18:08:54 GMT)

re: short guy on tall woman

consensual wrote
>the girl was very sexy, and she seemed very friendly,
>and from what I could sense, she was willing.
>I am not small or short, but I just love watching short
>wimpy ugly guys going after the lovely ass of a tall,
>sexy, statuesque women. Anyone else feel the same way?

I'm tall and alway envious of a short man. I rarely met a girl of my size. 6 foot woman with a pair of high heels is my size. I usually need to bend my knees to put up my dick between her cheeks. If she is really short I found my pee above her waist.


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vivid (Sun 20 May 2001 10:59:10 GMT)

indian way of chikan (sexual groping)

Hi guys and gals,

I have been looking for such a forum or thread on net for ages. finally i stumbled upon this and am extremely glad to find guys who share my greatest fantasy and interest- that is groping into women at public places. i have been doing this ever since i was 20. i think i have reached my ultimate fantasy ranging from beautiful virgins, to buxom teenagers, to sexy married wo

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layman (Sun 20 May 2001 15:56:19 GMT)

Re: indian way of chikan (sexual groping)

Hi vivid,

I dont understand your argument for the spirituality of groping.
But I, too, feel I can smell something from a woman.
It's not really her smell.
It's not really my nose.
But something tells me that she is okay.
I wonder if a biochemist knows the answer.
Maybe it's a pheromone.


vivid (Mon 21 May 2001 07:32:32 GMT)

hello layman

I am not making any argument about the spiritual link to the
orgasm. this is my own theory and i have realised it over
time that each one has his own way of interpretation of life,
sex, faith and enjoyment. so there is no point in forcing
any point here. each one has a right to live his life his
own way. i think orgasm is one of greatest human feeling
after kundalini effect. so lesser mortals pursue orgasm
and dont take thelonger route to reach pleasure of kundalini

cheers


vivid (Mon 21 May 2001 13:31:49 GMT)

short man, tall woman

i am short guy ( 5' 7) and most the right height to grope most women. now
i thank the almighty for it, as i used to feel dejected that i am short.its an
amazing to grope tall women, esp when they have broad hips, deep crack in the ass which allows perfect penetration from behind, no matter what garment she is
wearing, also soft, plumpy women are the best for pleasure. its the ultimate in
entertainment. they wont move when I push hard, and they can take harder push
and the orgasm is ultimate too.


vivid (Tue 29 May 2001 04:50:06 GMT)

what are u waiting for???

that was a fantastic encounter with that babe of urs. have u never thought
of a way to hump her in the back, instead of rushing to the bath, its
obvious that if she allowed u to rub ur dick in the crack of her ass,
she will allow to go a few more steps ahead. u were only a few strokes
away from a climax dear. so dont waste those precious juices in the
wrong places. and by the way, u can subtly introduce her to this groping
community. u cud have a better chance with her, as reading the threads
here she will never hornier than ever


bboy (Thu 31 May 2001 17:34:09 GMT)

where is the best place?

for all the gropers out there, where is the best place to grope? the most crowded places, necessarily? and where are the best-looking women to grope. lots of times, they may be in elevators, but not on public buses, depending on which country you're in. i just haven't come across inviting situations as described on this site. most of the time, i'm too scared to do it, scared of getting caught.


webmaster (Wed 06 Jun 2001 21:04:33 GMT)

Re: Saikyo line

The world most chikan populated railway, the saikyo line of tokyo, is going to introduce female only cars in the hope of protecting a woman from a chikan. Yet the move is also welcomed among chikans.

Chikans are troubled by girls known as land-mines, bombs or time-bombs. They appear to be ok and approachable, yet after the initial docility they suddenly put up a great fuss about.

Chikans are hoping all those time-bombs going to stay in female only cars.


stalloin (Thu 07 Jun 2001 20:36:04 GMT)

Calling all ladies

Hi there ladies on the board..I guess of all the ladies that I have tried to grope, more than half of them did not quite look opposed to the idea :) So why do we not see more ladies on the board. COme on ladies give us some ideas of what you like and what you dont


Consensual (Wed 20 Jun 2001 13:32:25 GMT)

minnesota girl

I agree with zteq. Minnesota girl: what about more details on the bus incident you wrote about last time, or any other incidents.

I recently came back from a trip to the mid-west. In several tries, I get the sense that women there are not as receptive, or used to, contacts in public places (compared to, say, NY). They withdraw very quickly, out of politeness I think, even when I sense they are interested or at least curious about little soft touching here and there.

So I would love to hear more details from minnesota girl.


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NYUpsych (Tue 26 Jun 2001 20:02:11 GMT)

Minnesota girl

Hi M girl - I have tons of questions for you regarding your experience. If you rather talk privately, please email me at nyupsych@hotmail.com.

Anyway, sounds like you didn't enjoy the brush on your chest, because you turned around, but then someone else touched your bottom.

Question: What was going through your mind as it happened? What were your reactions? What's going through your

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NYUpsych (Wed 27 Jun 2001 20:28:13 GMT)

MN girl

Thanks. Cool answers.

Sounds like you were/are matter-of-fact about it. Definitely different from most male gropers' reaction - very intense.

My research is not over yet, but my early conclusion is that this chikan/groping business is like a sport (football, if you will) - guys are totally into it (those who are into it), and most girls generally just put up with it (some like it, so

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webmaster (Fri 29 Jun 2001 21:09:02 GMT)

Re: MN girl

>When girls first get "introduced" to this sport, their reaction
>could as unpredictable as a stranger's likes & dislikes.

Yes. And I think those new girls themselves do not know if they like it or how they can (or they should) react to it. They are unpredictable as they themselves are at a loss what to do. Yet this makes them more controllable. That is you do not test if they accept it, you make them accept it.

Clear rule such as a "stop" signal is a good idea not so much because it makes the game safe - if groping becomes really safe, much of its flavour is lost. It is exciting because it is risky - but because we need etiquette.


C.P.M (Tue 03 Jul 2001 21:59:48 GMT)

chikan clubs

Notorious for it's packed carriges, the Tokyo underground system offers
plenty of scope for the legions of Japanise men who enjoy a good grope
during the rush hour. But even in Japan, with it's well-known
maltreatment of women, public frottage against young females causes
serious offence - which is why a number of enterprising businessmen are
now offering a safer haven for tube perv

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vivid_r@yahoo.com (Sat 07 Jul 2001 06:20:08 GMT)

no fun in pre-arranged groping

hi
i have read and heard about the groping cars where girls are paid '
to be groped. there is no such thrill or fun in such encounters
immaterial of so called authentic train ambience. u know that u are
paying the woman in there for the grope. there is no fear, resistance
to pump ur heart faster. such groping is no different from fucking
a prostitute. it is meant for the weak hearted and not the real
chickan

cheers
vivid


Amazon (Wed 11 Jul 2001 14:52:41 GMT)

Singleplay

You know, playing alone is very good.
The best is with a shower.
I love hot water coming from a narrow nozzle.
I never come with a boyfriend
but I can reach the climax right off by the jet


TA (Thu 12 Jul 2001 10:20:37 GMT)

Really?

hi. this is my first message on this amazing site. i am facinated by chikan. actually, i love the entire japanese culture and of course the females. i am often curious whether it is SO easy for men to grope women on the subways/trains in japan?! what's more confusing for me is that the women do not do anything about it (or maybe they like it)! can someone pls let me know whether it's really that easy? if i were to go to japan and ride on the trains, can i successfully become an instant chikan?


webmaster (Thu 12 Jul 2001 21:09:56 GMT)

Re: Really?

It is so easy for men to TOUCH women on the subways/trains in japan - because even if you do not like it, you are pressed against women by the crowdedness.

And women CAN NOT do anything about it - unless you conspicuously grope a woman beyond her doubt.

Very few Japanese women like it - but a lot more just get used to a grope.

The success rates (when I was active) were roughly:
body contact/passive touching - 100%
ambiguous groping - 40-50%
aggressive groping - 10-20%
dressed foreplay - 3-4%
finger fuck - 0.5-1%


TA (Fri 13 Jul 2001 02:00:38 GMT)

Re:Really?

thks for your quick reply.

the stats seem quite high, given all the circumstances. however, with the recent turn in events in japan, i think it is becoming more and more difficult to be a chikan in japan. am i right?

i'd really like to hear more chikan stories which happened in japan, with japanese chicks.


MASHER (Fri 13 Jul 2001 07:31:38 GMT)

RE: Really

It is so easy for men to TOUCH women on the subways/trains in my country also - because even if you do not like it, you are pressed like sardines in the rush hour buses.
Women and Men CAN NOT do anything about it - unless you conspicuously grope a woman beyond doubt then some take action. Pen, Pencil, Bobby Pin, Umbrellar, Elbow, knitting needle etc.

Very few women like it - but most jus

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webmaster (Fri 13 Jul 2001 21:02:43 GMT)

Re: Really?

Yes, you are right, TA. It is more difficult to be a chikan in japan lately.

And the stat varies depend on your skill, resolve and also circumstances. I was rather coward and I tried to persuade a woman while she was still in doubt (while ambiguous groping). So I never got pinned, penned, needled nor turned over to the police.

Those who accepted my hand knowingly (aggressive groping), very few accepted it willingly (dressed foreplay). Only then I put fingers in her slot.


New to Chicago (Mon 16 Jul 2001 14:01:15 GMT)

Re: Annonymous in Chicago

Is there much subway groping action going on in Chicago? seems like trains don't get crowded enough. I go to Chicago a lot but never really get much going compared to other big crowded cities. Any tips? Which line and what time?


webmaster (Tue 24 Jul 2001 21:06:24 GMT)

wrong person (original in Japanese, translated by the webmaster)

Few years ago in a train, a man right behind a straphanging-woman was probably groping her. She turned around and made a complaint.

To my sorrow a woman cannot twist her heads 180 degrees. Those around us likely took it the complaint against me by her side.

I was in a difficult position till the train arrived at the destination.

I earnestly wished that when you take an action against a groper, you make the action clear for those around you.

I did not say a word in defense of myself .. no excuse could be useful as the situation then stands ..

This is the favor I'd like to ask of you women.


webmaster (Sun 29 Jul 2001 21:08:56 GMT)

Hands up, men!

Japanese weekly magazine "sunday mainichi" has found that 96% of office girls feel uneasy about a hand of a middle-aged man near to her in a train. One commented that a man might not grope her but he might enjoy touching her accidentally. You hold on to a strap (by the both hands) to relief a girl, men!


webmaster (Thu 02 Aug 2001 21:12:35 GMT)

A high-school girl; a victim of chikan, but a habitual victim?

A Japanese tabloid newspaper has reported about a chikan trial. The article said that unexpected fact about the victim came to light in the court. She had caught at least 5 chikan in about one year and, in some cases, received money to settle the matter out of court. The smallest payment was ¥200,000 (approximately $1,600) and the maximum was ¥700,000(approximately $5,600).


steve (Wed 15 Aug 2001 17:21:15 GMT)

Los Angeles Subway

Can someone familiar with the Los Angeles Subway give me some pointers
on how to grope? Clothes to wear, how to start the first move,
to touch bottom or front? What kind of reaction from girl before
touching harder, deeper? I have never taken a subway before, but
I am going crazy wanting to grope some woman and make her cum....and
me too. :)


old guard (Thu 16 Aug 2001 17:05:12 GMT)

>Los Angeles Subway

I'm not familiar with L.A. But . . .
Dress to your best.
Pretend accident at first.
No reaction is the girl's best reaction (well, if she does groping back, that's the best).


webmaster (Mon 20 Aug 2001 21:02:11 GMT)

If you are falsely accused of chikan.

Few Japanese message boards recently have had heated discussions about fale chikan accusation. Some of advice are quite useful. Although legal procedures differ by country, coping with a girl who accuses you by mistake must be the same on the whole. So I have selected the best arguments and arrenged them into the following guidance.

1) You deny the accusaion calmly and walk away. You do not

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beach girl (Thu 06 Sep 2001 17:56:58 GMT)

i'm the victim

diver's story put me in mind of my experience two years ago. i went sea with my college roommate in that summer. we went rubber-boating after an early lunch. actually the boat was very small. so that while she rowed the boat, i hanged on it and swam.

Suddenly someone came up from the water and he untied my bra and took it away and one more guy grabbed my bikini bottom. everything happened a

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TA (Fri 07 Sep 2001 10:35:26 GMT)

First schoolgirl grope...

i know HK quite well. it's quite difficult to grope without meeting resistance in HK. chinese girls will not put up with it. maybe she was too young. but i am sure any girls who are older, say, over 20, will not allow groping.


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Guest (Sun 16 Sep 2001 15:25:53 GMT)

comments

Re: feeling up at a club
Re: sleep time with an exchange student

>She immediately turned and confronted me about it.

>She said if I buy her a drink, she would forgive me and maybe even have a dance.

So she was half angry but half curious. That's typical of a young groping victim in a sense, though few dare to confront a man immediately to his face. Maybe alcohol made her bo

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Spike (Sun 16 Sep 2001 17:57:26 GMT)

exchange student story

Hey, I bet your daughter is having the same thing happen to her in the country she is in!!!! Maybe we wil hear from that guy.


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paul (Thu 20 Sep 2001 01:00:19 GMT)

WTC

I live and play in New York. The recent attack has left me thinking about little else. Everywhere I go there are makeshift memorials. I can't concentrate on my work. Sex, whether with my wife or with an unwilling stranger on the subway, is far from my mind. People, everyone here in NY, are close to tears constantly. I love this board, though I haven't posted in a while. I feel I've found some peop

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webmaster (Sat 22 Sep 2001 21:02:57 GMT)

tragedy in U.S.A.

When we are deeply grieved, we are not in the mood to grope a woman. I do not know what it means. It may mean that someone has succeeded in throwing us into confusion. Yet we cannot pretend that it never happened either. The recent tragedy in U.S.A. is what I cannot disregard lightly. Although I do not think this messageboard can deal with a serious discussion on international politics. At least we may share in our feeling.

That said, however, I cannot but go back to the subject of grope and think of a woman, a victim of a grope. She has feeling too. And often, she is not the mood to be touched. I wish you do not pursue an unwilling woman but initiate a secret love adventure with a willing one only. I am sorry, however, to say that I still don't know how to tell them apart.


SLoengard (Sun 23 Sep 2001 02:12:22 GMT)

Tips for a Gentle Chikan

I've been a successful chikan for some years, although our Toronto subways aren't as crowded as Tokyo's. I agree completely with our esteemed webmaster: the consensual fondle is much more exciting and satisfying. This is the way of the "gentle chikan". I have no desire to traumatize the woman; I'd like her to enjoy the experience as much as I do. I'll leave it to others to prey on children and unw

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Mutface (Sun 23 Sep 2001 05:45:37 GMT)

Gentle Chikan

I agree with your comments and advice. A girls acceptance of an innocent brush across her thigh or backside leading to a gentle stroke of the hand graduating to a soft caress unnoticed by others is very exciting. This is quite difficult in Hong Kong though. Chinese people are amongst the most paranoid bunch on the planet, they are always, without exception all eyes when the "Gweilo" (foriegn ghost as we are called here)is around. However, one thing I have learned from experience is that HKG schoolgirls aged 14 - 16 are quite curious towards western men. They will not admit it outwardly but once you set up a safe situation where no one else but you and her know what is happening they are curiously open to experiment.


Truth (Thu 27 Sep 2001 00:45:06 GMT)

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dear dr. gardos,
Sometimes when I am riding a crowded bus or subway, I like to sort of bump or rub up against women. They usually just think that it is accidental. It gives me a a little thrill, but I started thinking, is there anything wrong with this?

-- jolly commuter


dear jolly commuter,
Not to sound judgmental or moralistic but... YES, there is something wrong with t

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Guest (Thu 27 Sep 2001 02:28:28 GMT)

Truth

You have got to be kidding me. Are you trying to tell us that if a lovely young woman does not show any displeasure from a casual brush against her thigh or ass but rather displays a sign of welcoming such flirtatious behaviour that as a gentleman you should would walk away? You then go on to say if this arouses a man he should seek counseling..?!?! Are you playing with a full deck here Mr. Therapist? Oh so I guess this also means if a woman gently places her hand on your stiff cock that you should push her away and tell her to seek help... Yeah ok... Mr. Therapist, there is a huge difference between flirting and receiving a positive response as oppossed to vulgar groping. A question for you now Sir... Are you GAY?


flyer (Mon 01 Oct 2001 14:14:55 GMT)

airplane seat

you are lucky if you can take a seat next to a beautiful woman. when i flew and was asked where i wanted to be seated, i said that i wanted next to a young beautiful lass. i was told that i could choose only either a window seat or an aisle seat.


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vivid reality (Mon 08 Oct 2001 07:13:21 GMT)

love to jack big bubbly butts

for a true jacker like me, there is nothing better than a big bubbly butt with a deep crack in it. once i sink in my dick into it, it just melts like butter. and then all the pleasure senses explode as the sidewalls of the crack hold the dick in a delicate yet firm hold. my pulsating dick now then will find the crack a bit warm that needs pumping to heat up the apparatus. the sheer harmony of pulsating dick inside a voluptuous butt is something undescribable. i am sure gropers here will agree with me that there is no better sex than jacking a stranger. the sheer chemistry, the strangeness, the novelty of a butt everytime. well all chikans in here should take a little time and tell what kind of butts, pussies, girls excite them the most, and why?


yachikan (Mon 08 Oct 2001 16:54:01 GMT)

a girl best i love

not a rejecting girl who i can not touch.
and not a willing girl who i feel too easy.
but a girl i love best is a girl who is hesitating a little,
but full of curiosity at the same time.
you know, i want play the game.


SLoengard (Wed 10 Oct 2001 12:04:12 GMT)

Re: a girl best i love

yachikan , you're right - that's the best. I've never met a girl who "i feel too easy" but I'd like to. But is this just fantasy on our parts (?!) I'm sure there are girls and women who have been felt up and resisted but later thought it was kinda sexy. I wish more girls and women would relate their experiences and feelings, like sarita and others. Those are the best posts!


consensual (Wed 10 Oct 2001 13:34:02 GMT)

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agree with yachikan - but even better kick than that is when I feel up a girl with her boyfriend by her side. He can't see it of course, but i love it when the girl knows you are feeling her up, is a little worred that her boyfriend might find out, is kind of enjoyinig it or doesn't want the boyfriend to get out of control, so she just lets you do whatever.

i did yesterday at a bar; kept ho

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abdel (Thu 11 Oct 2001 19:13:57 GMT)

fuck them all

you know what chikan are just bastard they have to try to grope their mum
see ya


Spike (Thu 11 Oct 2001 23:54:38 GMT)

Chicago

For that Chicago dude, I know during Cubs season the train running by the park gets pretty crowded, and there are so many hotties!


X (Fri 19 Oct 2001 01:41:17 GMT)

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There have been a few recent postings here about "if someone is
interested in you, they brush up against you" or touch you in some way.

Women should be aware that sometimes there might be a more sinister plan
involved. It is called frotteurism. (according to the Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - fourth edition, 1994).
"Frotteurism involves the touching or

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X (Fri 19 Oct 2001 02:02:24 GMT)

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I'd feel incredibly disgusted. I've had attractive men attempt to
masturbate themselves or whatever on my unknowing person. It's horrible.
It made me feel incredibly grossed out, and dirty. I really wanted to go
home and take a shower. It's not about the person being a suitable
partner, because they're not interested in you, they're interested in that
you are a warm female body. Also, I'm right not consenting to their sex
act. If a handsome man assaults me, it's still assault.


X (Fri 19 Oct 2001 02:04:10 GMT)

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A dry hump is frustrating, that's what a dry hump is.
> "Hump" in this context is a euphemism for sexual intercourse, and a "dry
> hump" is similar to what the French call "frottage" - rubbing against
> another person in a simulation of sexual intercourse, but without
> penetration (and to my mind, usually at least partially clothed) and
> without reaching orgasm (hence the "dry"

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bdbdboy2000 (Fri 19 Oct 2001 20:28:16 GMT)

Latina Bubble Butt Groping!

Subject: Latina bubble butt groping!


I would love to hear , how the groping goes at the fesival in peru,
for the dude that wrote posted on it. You see to me there is nothing
that i love more then groping,grabbing,frottaging,molesting a fine
bubble butt latina. I right now, i'm living in New York City home to
some of the finest bubbleassed latin chicks around. We got cub

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X (Fri 19 Oct 2001 21:08:50 GMT)

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>I think "the little women are helpless" but because I know what savages
>men can be and I get there before some low-life does. I live in NY and
>this is not a safe town for a woman at night. Many of the girls I work
>with at night in the office ask me to walked them home or ride the
>subway with them because they feel safe when I am with them and are less
>likely to be verball

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x (Sat 20 Oct 2001 00:56:35 GMT)

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The Frotteurist

Dick had been a frotteurer for 10 years when seen at the age 45. His usual pattern was first to decide at the home if he had time to carry out frottage while on his way to work. He would then place plastic wrap around his penis while dressing, anticipating that when he ejaculated, the ejaculate would not show through his suit pants. To increase the likelihood of crowding, h

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x (Sat 20 Oct 2001 01:20:29 GMT)

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Good one, Sam

I've done the Metro in Paris, and The Bus <ack> in Honolulu... so maybe I've got
some experience :-)
I've been to the World plenty of times when I've *thought* it was crowded.. I'm just
afraid that I'm in for a real surprise... finding out what crowded *really* is
<groan>

This is really really gross... but I once did this *spectacular* little trick when
a certain person wouldn't stop 'rubbing' against me (basically wanting to stand on
my feet instead of his own).... after I finally got really fed up, the next time
he turned to look at me, I stuck my finger up my nose & had this really happy look
on my face. Guy backed waaaaay off HA HA HA HA

Thirteen more hours, and the Mouse is mine mwa ha ha ha ha

Brenda


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